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Jan 2, 2019

This week, James and Rafal welcome in 2019 with a look at the fundamentally fatalistic argument that "everyone gets hacked" - with Richard Bird. They discuss whether that's even a valid statement, and if so, what can we do about it?

Highlights from this week's show include...

  • Richard addresses the question of whether we've addressed a fundamentally fatalistic attitude towards security
  • The guys discuss whether the real perimeter, as we go into 2019
  • Richard schools the guys on identity - and what it's not the perimeter, but something else


  • Richard Bird - Chief Customer Information Officer at Ping Identity - Link:
    (Yes, Richard is the guy with the smashingly handsome bowties!)